![]() “It’s a measure of Steve’s seriousness that he said, ‘This has to be in Italian,’” Harnwell said while fending off his pets. “What’s going on with the European Central Bank, for instance, who’s paying cash electronically.” The whole thing, he said, is supposed to come off as credibly dull and respectable. “I pick the most substantial, important stories, not the most headline-grabbing stories,” he said, scanning the progressive paper La Repubblica. Every weekday evening, the show runs a breakdown of what he considers to be the most overlooked stories in Italian politics. Harnwell looked again at his iPad, glancing over the news. If we’re going to destroy-no, torpedo-the rules-based order so beloved of Foreign Policy readers, what happens in Italy is going to be fundamental to that battle.” “It is also, as Steve pointed out, long before anyone else, an extremely important laboratory for populist nationalist policies. “Italy is only the third-biggest economy in the EU, but it has a huge cultural pull,” Harnwell told Foreign Policy. The spinoff would serve Bannon’s continued, quixotic ambitions to foment populist revolts across Europe Harnwell eagerly agreed to be showrunner. In September 2022, Bannon grew enthralled by the electoral victory of Italy’s far-right Brothers of Italy party, and he offered to finance a Rome edition of his flagship live podcast, War Room, which Harnwell was then producing. Harnwell has since devoted himself to the one-time Trump whisperer, whom he views as an unparalleled genius, a virtuosic facilitator of complex media psychological operations and geopolitical intrigue. He moved to Rome in 2010 to ingratiate himself in Vatican circles, befriending a load of cardinals who hated the progressive Pope Francis-when one influential cardinal was accused by other right-wingers of being a secret supporter of gay rights, Harnwell personally intervened to defend his friend’s impeccable record of intolerance-and that’s how he met Bannon. Like Bannon, Harnwell is devoutly religious-born to atheist parents, he converted to Catholicism as a young man-and he honed his distinct melange of Trumpian and religious fundamentalist sympathies during a long stint in Brussels, where he worked for a prominent eurosceptic parliamentarian, promoted a Catholic take on Austrian economics, and founded the Dignitatis Humanae Institute, a think tank that aims to reverse “radical secularism” in the West. War Room: Rome is the latest strange spawn of the long and turbulent relationship between Harnwell, a 47-year-old Catholic conservative from the English city of Leicester, and Steve Bannon, the choleric former chief strategist for former U.S. It was another frantic day at the international bureau of the hugely popular War Room podcast and its brand new Italian edition-and it was rapidly approaching show time. “Ajax, let me work, please.” He tried in vain to return to his iPad, where he was scanning Italian news for items that would inflame right-wingers. “Philomena, no! In!” he squealed before Ajax, disengaging from the bunny, suddenly leapt onto his chest, big wet tongue homing in. ![]() His dog, Ajax, was busy dismembering a stuffed rabbit while his two cats attempted to flee to the terrace. Still giving WarRoom four stars for the value it did deliver.One chilly November evening, Benjamin Harnwell reclined on a thick sofa in the opulent apartment he was borrowing in the heart of Rome, Mozart’s “Cara, la Dolce Fiamma” humming sweetly from rich, warm speakers. People whose opinions I want to hear are being screened out. It also seems that anyone with a mind to support one of Trump’s opponents (at least two once regular guests come to mind) will no longer be invited on. ![]() WarRoom is now the place for those who do. ![]() On one podcast this week, Bannon concluded a rant against DeSantis and for Trump with the statement that Trump is “an instrument of divine providence.” To that extent, it has become narrower in purpose and less interesting. His aim was to arm listeners with knowledge that could enable them to act in the arena of public policy and to make smart decisions for themselves.īannon still does that, but lately the podcast has become more and more a megaphone for the Trump campaign. I would make time to listen to WarRoom, as Steve Bannon, the host, brought on guests and covered events from a populist, nonconformist point of view. ![]()
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